I recently received a couple of emails from a disciple of Alcoholics Anonymous claiming to be Christian, yet defending AA in spite of scriptural refutation exposing it's heresy. I hope this dialogue will prove beneficial for those engaged in exposing the heresy of Alcoholics Anonymous and the Twelve Steps.
His original email text:
people in aa or various 12 step groups do not follow bill Wilson....they use the 12 steps...which were written by the first 100 people ...not exclusively bill Wilson are based on SURRENDER TO GOD ...CONFESSION...RESTITUTION...PRAYER...HELPING OTHERS....there is no profit motive...no paid proffessionals....no Ouija boards at the meetings which I have attended for almost 30 years...I am ashamed to say that the honesty and love I have experienced has been more than any evangelical church has given me ....WHY DO YOU PERSECUTE ME/
His response back:
sir with all due respect....the epistle of james says that faith without works is dead....when I say I am an alcoholic I am saying I am a sinner who is never beyond temptation....interesting you are not opposed to using pharmaceuticals but refer to aa as satanic....the American medical association states that alcoholism is a disease...are you a doctor? the truth may be that the religious establishment may be jealous of aa na ca oa and the millions of people who have been helped.....aa is not a religion but does not oppose anyone from believing in the gospel....no theology .....your message of grace implies we don't have to do anything but believe but what about preach, baptize and make disciples ..is this works?.....the reason the churches let them rent space is because aa is self supporting and pays rent.....aa is not involved in politics and does not pander for money and donations.....maybe some churches could learn from that.....I believe there is a recovery reformation but it is the recovery movement that is reforming the church ..we are everywhere.....aa is not for everyone and does not oppose your religious beliefs. Lets not forget youre views on the gospel is your denominational teaching....youre posts sound like medieval inquisitions and are not the views of my Baptist denomination, nor the views of many prominent Christian leaders so who are you speaking for?? ive met many Christians with unresolved addiction issues in aa and have become better Christians after taking the steps. The concepts of one day at a time, amends, forgiveness are in the sermon on the mount but you only talk of grace .....aa also says but for the grace of God.....ive been in chuches and aa since 1988 and have never seen so much support for 12 groups as today......saved by Christ alone ....Christ is the Word and we are to obey His commandments....acts 5 38 should be considered and Gamaliels words have much wisdom for us.
My final response:
In what way does the Epistle of James refer to this issue? Our works are the fruit of our faith which is born of God's grace - but how would that justify the heresy of Alcoholics Anonymous?
6/17/2018 10:22:06 am
I was in a 28 day in house program (the AA business arm) at a location in Havre, MT. It was there I was introduced to AA spirituality. One of the counselors there, also an AA'er, stated the "Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous was his Bible." A native American woman counselor gave an impassioned speech to the group about "misconceptions" about God, specifically that he is NOT a vengeful good but one whom the treatment group could [define themselves]. In my newness to this philosophy, I asked if this was some kind of Jesus program. In reply I was told, "no no bullshit no". In a group meeting held at the alcohol center, one woman went through an emotional scene. After her disclosure she gained some type of momentary acceptance with the counselor and the group she exclaimed "thank you Jesus", she was immediately scorned by the counselor facilitating the therapy group. In the years since (early 1980's) I learned a number have died or been imprisoned. This in house treatment center has been defunct for a number of years now.
6/17/2018 11:47:11 am
Thank you Bill for helping to expose the dangers of AA and the rejection of any mention of Christ or the Christian faith by the AA program.
6/23/2018 02:34:03 pm
Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness... GOD IS ONLY LIMITED BY ONE’s FAITH in His ability to APPEAR IN ANY PLACE IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES AND AT ANY TIME... ARGUING WITH ONE ANOTHER WILL ONLY DIVIDE... SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND NO MATTER HOW UNDERDEVELOPED YOUR FAITH... IF YOU WANT HIM ENOUGH, YOU WILL FIND THAT HE WILL ALWAYS APPEAR. UNIFY DON’T DIVIDE ONE ANOTHER. GOD IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT, AND HIS MERCY IS GREATER THAN WHAT WE READ AND COMPREHEND... THEREFORE INVITE, BUT DO NOT LIMIT HIM BASED ON WHAT YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTAND OR DON’T UNDERSTAND.... HE IS SO POWERFUL THAT ONCE ONE LEARNS THAT, HIS LIFE WILL BE TRANSFORMED NO MATTER WHERE OR HOW IT IS LEARNED. THE FACT IS THAT THOSE WHO NEED HIM AND BELIEVE IN HIM WILL SEEK HIM AND HE WILL REVEAL HIMSELF POWERFULLY TO THOSE WHO TRY TO BE HIS... THOSE WHO CARE NOT WILL NOT.
6/27/2018 06:37:04 pm
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Chad Prigmore is Pastor and President of The Way R122 Ministry USA & Kenya.